In many countries of the world, well in most countries apparently, there is a substantial penalty for renouncing your faith if you’re a Muslim. The death threats are certainly not an incentive to renounce Islam as your religion.
Fascinating that there are probably millions of Muslims walking around as Muslims only because to declare otherwise would actually be dangerous. Whereas there are millions of Christians out there, mostly in places like China, Sudan and some Islamic countries, where being a Christian is dangerous. And yet they still convert.
Kinda says something about the two religions. Figure it out.
Yes, there are many people who consider themselves Christians who are not practicing. Especially in the United States. But where in the world would a Christian be harassed and threatened with death if they renounced the faith. It’s mostly cultural (and hedging your bets about the afterlife) that people hang on to the Christian label.
Interesting discussion over at Winds. Armed Liberal seems to disagree with the premise that liberal Hollywood (and all that represents, i.e. the export of social liberalism) are partly or wholly responsible for the Islamic hatred toward America and the west. By disagree he thinks that the idea should be shunned from the vat of admiral discussion points, but I disagree, and the comments the post has been getting seem to indicate that it may or may not be true (at least in the sense of the underlying cause of Al-Qaeda or that it’s the main cause of Islamic hatred) it’s a good point of origin for discussion on where the militant Islamic movement comes from and where it gets its fuel.
But our involvement with the Middle East and terrorism goes back a bit longer than most people realize, and the causes of Islamic Extremism are far reaching, beyond their deranged attitude toward the west. Interesting interview with Michael Oren, author of a book detailing our founding fathers grappling with Islamic terrorists. Yes, it’s been that long.
Also, this conundrum: if we support Democracy, what do we do when democracies vote in parties that support Islamism and generally hate us?
In a nutshell, if we believe that freedom and some form of a democratic / representative government are the keys to dismantling the more violent and hard-to-live-alongside versions of Islamism - how do we deal with the problem that in free elections in much of the Muslim world today, the Islamists - the hard-to-live-alongside ones - would be likely to win?
If we believe we can avoid conflict by doing the right thing, and doing the right thing means handing power to people who are determined to have a conflict with us...there's a good chance we've got issues with the way we're formulating the problem.
It’s another good starting point for a discussion anyway. I disagree with the quote he brings up to illustrate this. We’ve been hard on Hamas even though they were elected in Palestine. However, Hamas is, at its core, a terrorist organization. We have every right to insist that countries be run as Democracies, but then every right to deal with the party in power as we see fit to ensure our own safety and the safety of our allies.
I do agree that we can’t turn a blind eye to countries like Egypt suppressing a party like the Muslim Brotherhood just because we’re afraid of them winning a general election there.